# Panflow causing Ableton Live 11 to crash (vst & vst3)

**URL:** https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/panflow-causing-ableton-live-11-to-crash-vst-vst3/1567
**Category:** Bug Reports
**Created:** [November 9, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/panflow-causing-ableton-live-11-to-crash-vst-vst3/1567 "2023-11-09T23:13:56Z")
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### Author: ![Rannys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Rannys](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Rannys)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/panflow-causing-ableton-live-11-to-crash-vst-vst3/1567/1 "2023-11-09T23:13:56Z")

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I can not use Panflow, when adding it to any Ableton Live 11 (11.3.3) session it crashes the DAW within the next 10-20 seconds. Happening on both vst/vst3 versions.

Here I attach a drive link with the .zip Ableton crash report.

> **[Ableton Crash Report 2023-11-10 000533 Live 11.3.3.zip](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G66VMjKv0HFzv6c48ffSoeVYJyecEQbm/view?usp=sharing)**
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> Google Drive file.

Thanks!

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### Author: ![Audiomodern](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.audiomodern.com/audiomodern/32/3_2.png) [@Audiomodern](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Audiomodern)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2023, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/panflow-causing-ableton-live-11-to-crash-vst-vst3/1567/2 "2023-11-18T16:14:26Z")

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Hello Rannys,

Sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing the crash log, we will investigate and correct with an update.  
Stay tuned.