Hello!
I am attaching text from a thread over on the Reason forum. The behavior, as per the Reason devs, can be reproduced in Ableton, so the conclusion is that the issue likely resides within the VST’s code.
Steps:
Add Audiomodern Loopmix VST3 to rack.
Open it, press space bar to play.
Close out of VST’s interface
Now delete the VST from the rack either by selecting it and pressing delete or by contextual menu > Delete Devices and Tracks
Results:
Reason crashes.
Also crashes with same steps Windows 11 Home 21H2, AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
with 12.5.97d27 LOGGING
“Assertion failure in: C:\Builds.…\Portable_Shame\ReAlizer.cpp(5332)”
Reason dev follow up:
We have examined this issue a little closer. We have received reports about this from end users as well.
It’s quite clearly indicated that there is a problem with Loopmix. Both crashes are in Loopmix and not in our code.
This bug can be even more easily triggered by:
Add a loopmix vst device in Reason
Open the loopmix plugin window and close it
Reset the vst device
Loopmix can also crash Ableton. Tried the following:
Add a track with Loopmix
Save the vst presets to a file
Close the Loopmix vst window
Load the vst presets from the file
Ableton crashes
I will close this ticket now since there is nothing we can do about this.
Please feel free to contact Audiomodern about this bug.
Hope you find the solution. I am also a Reason user, R12. I only have Playbeat but held back from buying Loopmix because Playbeat was not fully functional with Reason at the time and was crashing in some cases.
Playbeat 3.2.4 is a lot better in Reason now but there is some panning issues so I’ll start my own thread for that. No crashing now.
What version of Reason are you using? I assume Reason devs are running the latest.
If you own Playbeat and how does that run in Reason for you?
I would like to purchase Loopmix so hopefully this can be looked at soon.
Yes, I have been having the same issue with Loopmix in Ableton as well, consistently crashes after a while. All other plugins from Audiomodern work without a hitch though…
Ableton 11.3.3 both Loopmix and Riffer appear to cause Ableton to crash. In the case of Loopmix, also re-opens as a trial version and needs to be reinstalled. M1 Mac. Playbeat, Riffer and Chordjam no issues. I have updated to latest Loopmix version.
For Loopmix, This means that you still have the trial version installed.
You simply need to remove/trash the Loopmix_trial files from the location(s) below:
The AU plugin is at location:
/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components
The VSTs are at locations:
/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST
and
/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST3
The AAX plugin is at:
/Library/Application Support/Avid/Audio/Plug-Ins
For Riffer, which version (VST/VT3) produces the problem? Do you perhaps have a crash log that you can share with us?
Thanks, I uninstalled the trial version as you’ve suggested.
Loopmix is still causing crashes though, does not seem to be any specific pattern or set of actions that cause this. This does not happen using ReasonStudios, so am assuming it is probably unique to Ableton.
Sorry, it is not Riffer but Filterstep. I have the free version, every time I add to a track, Ableton crashes. Not sure if it is related to the Loopmix issue. The same rash with Filterstep does not happen in ReasonStudios.
Not sure how to attach a crash report to this thread, I used upload button but Ableton Zip file was greyed out.
We have fixed an issue with the VST3 version of Loopmix causing Live 11.3.4 to crash.
If you are using this latest Live version and the VST3 version of Loopmix, please head over to our updates page and download/install the latest Loopmix version 1.1.3
Great news, but unfortunately the MacOS installer got an error.
I tried it 2 times (with a second download), but I still get the same error message “installation failed” in the last step of the installer process.
What might be a hint : in the titlebar of the installer it states “Loopmix 1.0.2” - don’t know if this is the version of the installer or the content, hence a failure in the installer packaging process might be the cause, picking up an old version.
In the downlod the installer has the fileneme “Loopmix 1.1.3 (macOS).pkg” though.
I am on an Apple M1, so this might be something else to consider.
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Another thing, just out of curiosity : the previous version of the VST3 crashed in Abelton, but not in Bitwig. How can this happen?
I thought VST3 is a standard and hence all DAWs / Hosts should behave the same way (standards & consistent behavior - I hear you laughing ;-). Or had this something to do with the UI of the Loopmix plugin that ran in its own thread and “technical environment”.
In other words : was the problem outside the VST3 technology stack that happens in the host and some other “non VST3 thing” had a sideeffect that let Ableton crash, while Bitiwig was not affected?
Would be very nice, if you could unleash some of the technical causes - thanks in advance.
Hi,
this workaround via desktop worked - but I had to permit the installer access to files on the desktop (during the installation process).
I know this “ask for access permission” from other installers, but they use it to delete the *.pkg file after the installation has finished, which was not the case with the Loopmix installer.
So this might point to the cause of the problem - dispite beeing a “bug alike” on Apples side. But I think there will something on your installers side too, as I got no problems with other *.pkg installers.
Anyways, it worked, which is great - thanks for your help.
