# Cannot get MIDI learn in Reason 12, but works in Standalone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Help & Support\ **Created:** [September 6, 2022, 6:28am UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521 "2022-09-06T06:28:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ch1mpact](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Ch1mpact](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Ch1mpact)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 6:28am UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/1 "2022-09-06T06:28:36Z")
Hi there, I was hoping to get Midi learn to work in Reason 12 without manual configuration. A little confused as to what is going on tbh. I’ve included pictures in one picture because of your one pic policy??! 😀 In standalone I have MIDI Inputs option but in DAW I don’t. This may not matter and is normal but adds to confusion when I cannot get any midi controller to respond once in Reason 12 I cannot save in MIDI outputs in DAW version and when I go out and come back to this section nothing is saved!!? Also, a request, there is not much midi mapping for external use for something like the Combinator 2 in Reason 12. Could we possibly have the internal midi mapping options externally, please. ![Playbeat 3 no DAW midi control](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/audiomodern/original/1X/625ed90f6b920f0cb2d1284ee142238ea91b5f37.png) Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Audiomodern](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.audiomodern.com/audiomodern/32/3_2.png) [@Audiomodern](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Audiomodern)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/2 "2022-09-06T07:25:57Z")
Hello Ch1mpact, Thanks for reaching out. Not sure if Reason supports internal midi routing entirely. Have you tried to reach out to them about this? ---
**Author:** ![Ch1mpact](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Ch1mpact](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Ch1mpact)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/3 "2022-09-06T20:24:28Z")
Thank you for reply. I’ll see what Reason can do and/or use the internal cc mappings with Impact, no problem. Also, with for example microtonic multi I can get all 8 channels separately, I get 7 with Playbeat. I guess this can be configured in Playbeat but my solution is to use 2 Playbeat’s into the 14:2 Mixer within Reason, sorted With regards to cc mappings available to use externally like in the Combinator 2, I see most plugins provide this although your internal mappings are great. Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Audiomodern](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.audiomodern.com/audiomodern/32/3_2.png) [@Audiomodern](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Audiomodern)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/4 "2022-09-13T15:56:20Z")
Thanks for the information Ch1mpact, We will be testing with Reason and get back to you with our findings. Max ---
**Author:** ![JopsephThorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JopsephThorne](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/JopsephThorne)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/5 "2022-10-22T01:48:54Z")
Hi! Exact same situation with myself and bitwig. Any idea? ---
**Author:** ![Audiomodern](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.audiomodern.com/audiomodern/32/3_2.png) [@Audiomodern](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Audiomodern)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2022, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/6 "2022-10-23T18:53:10Z")
JopsephThorne do you see your controller being mapped on Playbeat’s UI as you move your pads/knobs? ---
**Author:** ![JopsephThorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JopsephThorne](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/JopsephThorne)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/7 "2022-10-25T08:01:14Z")
In standalone, once i turn a knob and exit midi learn mode, it moves just fine but can’t get it going at all in a daw. ---
**Author:** ![Audiomodern](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forum.audiomodern.com/audiomodern/32/3_2.png) [@Audiomodern](https://forum.audiomodern.com/u/Audiomodern)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 10:53am UTC](https://forum.audiomodern.com/t/cannot-get-midi-learn-in-reason-12-but-works-in-standalone/521/8 "2022-11-01T10:53:09Z")
Is this happening only on Bitwig? Which Bitwig version are you using?